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Higher Amperage Driver Boards

Discussion in 'Phlatprinter 3 MODS' started by NeilBlanchard, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. NeilBlanchard

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    Hello,

    The stock driver board that I have is the Mechatronics 2.5A per channel model. The steppers are 1A NEMA 23, and I need a higher torque stepper on the X-axis, because of the mass and frictions involved in moving the 2" x 2' x 8' foam sheet.

    I have a 2.3A NEMA 23 and even though it technically should have worked, I think there are inductive loads, and the fuse blew on the X-axis.

    So, I need to get a higher current driver board, and I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Here are a couple of possibilities.

    Here's a single channel board that is rated at 3A that might be used for the X-axis in "parallel" with the Y and Z on the Mechatronics: http://www.probotix.com/stepper_motor_drivers/ProboStep/

    Here's a really high current single channel unit: http://www.probotix.com/index.php?view=product&path=15&product_id=129

    And here's a 3.5A 3-channel board (that has a nice feature of connector plugs): http://www.dhgate.com/3-axis-cnc-step-motor-driver-board-controller/p-ff808081283858910128431a03206c76.html

    Are there other good options? I notice that the Probotix site has several kits that include one (or two) heavy duty motor.
     
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    Hello Neil,
    The first Probotix driver you listed are for driving uni-polar motors and will not work for us, we need bipolar drivers at those high amp ratings you mentioned. Like the second one you have listed. Its really nice but 120 bucks for one axis!
    As for the last link to the China blue board. We originally were going to use this board on our machines, but heard that there were problems with it. I think that it turns out that most of the problems were from users not reading about the dip switch settings to select the proper amperage. I actually own two of these boards and have not tried them yet (never enough time), so if you are willing to give some feedback I am willing to give one too you :) If it works out that would be great all around. What do you think?
    Thanks Neil
    Mark and Trish
     
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    I remember the discussion we had about that board, Mark. I ended up buying the EasyCNC board after reading the bad reviews. On the CNC Zone there is a thread about making your own boards. That's where I heard about that chip first. Now that they are coming from China it's less expensive to buy them finished than to buy the parts. I may give it a second look if it's true that the problems were caused by the users not setting it up correctly.
     
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    Twist my arm -- okay!! :) That board looks to be fairly robust -- the built in fan control is good, and as I said, I really like the plugs, too.

    By the way, the 10A Easy-CNC board is no longer in production, apparently.
     
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    I went to the probotix unipolar driver boards. You have to switch to there USB CNC board that supplies power to the chopper boards. You keep your original pin chip with the license to put in there cnc usb board. They gave me a $60 trade in on the CNC USB that came with the PP3. All together it's about $160. It was well worth it. All my problems went away. I am running the drivers at 2.0 amps driving a 24 X 48" 1" foam board with no problems. I don't doubt it would have no problems driving a 2" board. There customer support is great and they will tell you exactly what you need to get up and running.

    I have tried the TB 6560. I couldn't get it to interface with the CNC USB software. I think it only works with Mach 3.
     
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    TB6560 works fine with Planet CNC USB Controller.
    But pinout is different than EasyCNC and DB25 adapter can not be used (needs to be rewired).
     
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    @dhc8guru,

    Are you still using the same steppers that came with your pp 3?
    I would like to get a little more torque out of my x and y axis if possible.

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    GHB :D
     
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    thunder hawk, I use on the x and the y axis higher torque stepper. Look around. Mine is about 260oz/in and cost about $35 shipped. I bought it long time ago of ebay. MPJA.com may have some. I still use the easy cnc board with my higher torque stepper.
     
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    Thank you for that info. I think my x and y axis motors might be a little weak for the kind of projects
    I have been working on. I work a lot with acrylic, and I think it causes the motors to stall or miss steps.
    However, when I use my pp for cutting foam it runs spot on accurate.

    Mark if you ever have the time to design a 2 x 4 foot flat bed CNC router I'd be glad
    to buy one. :doubleup:

    Thanks again TigerPilot for your input. :cool:
    George :D
     
  10. NeilBlanchard

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    Mark & Trish,

    Is there any progress on the driver board? Is it the same model mentioned by Kroko, that requires a different pinout connection on the parallel port?
     
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    Hi Neil
    We are packing it up tonight. Sorry my friend. I am not sure if it is the same one that Kroko mentioned but if you have an older PC with a parallel port and mach3 or emc2 you could run it that way as well. People have had some issues with this board so I am not sure how well it will work for you but its worth a shot.
    The pin-out change should not be that difficult(if its needed) to do and I am sure Kroko can show, he even sells the cable with the screw downs so that you can swap the wires to the pin out you need on the planet-cnc store.
     
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    Thanks -- I'm looking forward to trying. I am using a laptop with a parallel port -- will that work better than the CNC-USB board as the interface? I don't have either of those programs, so hopefully the CNC-USB board works.
     
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    Yep still using the stock PP stepper motors.
     
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    Mark & Trish,

    I received the board yesterday, and I noticed that the DIP switches are all on. Is this set up for the same steps as the stock board? I will swap it out and put in the stronger stepper motor, soon.
     
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    You know I am not sure there really is no manual for it. But I did find a guy on a video who said the max amp is with all the switches set to on.
    I hope the board works out for you, but I really don't know how well it will. I just figure its worth a try. Hope you have good luck with it. :good:
    Mark and Trish
    p.s. you may find more info on it using the chip numbers in a search. Here is a link to a youtube video with a guy running, may find something reading through the comments
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIf53mNAtag
     
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    I second that, but with a vacuum table! :poke:
     

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