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Glass engraving with the Phlatprinter

Discussion in 'General Talk Forum' started by 3DMON, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. 3DMON

    3DMON Moderator Staff Member

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    After doing my mods to the rollers I thought I would try a little glass engraving.
    I think it came out pretty good. Towards the end of the cutting you will see me having to add some pressure to the top of the glass. This is because I still need to get rid of my 7/16" sagging rods LOL.
    I forgot that it would do that in that area or I would have made up for it in the code. All the more reasons for me to put my 5/8" rods on.
    The nativity scene was borrowed from Switchers dxf blog site. Thanks Switcher.
    [vimeo]http://www.vimeo.com/8186156[/vimeo]
    Attached files [​IMG]
     
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    That's pretty cool. I think I have one of those spherical bits. How much did you set it to go above the top? How's that new covering of yours, working for foams?

    -Kwok
     
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    5 stars!!! Excellent!!! More details!!! Merry Christmas! This begs for some really neat artwork to be done! I can see it now, etched glass counter tops for all my work benches lol!
     
  4. kram242

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    That is AWESOME Shaun!
    I would have never considered doing this. What is the bit you are using to grind the glass?
    I think the MKII may fare well with this having the double pressure rollers up front.
    Super job and thank you so much for the props in the credits :D
    You ROCK!!
    Mark
     
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    Wow Shaun that's Excellent!!!.... I think I've got one of those ball bits in the toolbox somewhere. Never found a use for it until now. :D The only thing that would worry me, would be the risk of the glass cracking. Might have to try it though. If not on glass, at least on plexi.

    Best Regards,
    Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
     
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    Do you think you could do this with plexi and a v groove bit? That would look nice.
    Changing out the rollers is one of the features I wanted to the MKII so that if you wanted to do this very thing you can easily swap them out and run smooth material. I have to make up a set of these.
    Mark
     
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    shaun, very cool bud...
     
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    Cool!! I love it. The PP is quickly becoming an "all-in-one" craft/modeling solution!

    Tim
    AG4RZ
     
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    Yea, what bit and how deep were you cutting/grinding? That is cool!
     
  10. 3DMON

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    Thanks for the comments guys.

    The bit I'm using is one of those diamond coated bits made for etching glass. They come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, but this one I used was a sphere. I programmed it to go .030 above the surface of the table for the engraving. This lifts the glass off the table a little which keeps good pressure on the bit.

    The rollers work fine on the foam and they don't mar the surface, but make note that the rollers will let any material slip without pressure. In my x axis and pressure roller mod thread you can see how I added the adjustable pressure mod to the main pressure roller so I can get the right amount of pressure. I'm not sure the weighted roller mod will be enough that most of you guys have been doing.

    I really think the MKII with a pressure roller mod would be awesome for this sort of stuff. The way Mark designed the y axis makes it impossible for the weight of the dremel to sag in the middle like my MK1.5 has been doing.

    I'm sure if the glass had masking tape on the outer edges the regular rollers would grip the glass just fine too.
     
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    That is one of the things I've been wanting to try out as well.
    I think doing a relief engraving in plexi or some sort of clear plastic and then putting it in a box with an led back lighting it would be awesome.
     
  12. FozzyTheBear

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    OHHHH YESSSS!!!! :D

    and by lighting it from one edge only, something rather good happens..... Wherever you cut, lights up as a result of sheet optics. It's pretty impressive when you see it for real. It works a bit like fibre optics in that the light only escapes at the cut edge, otherwise it bounces around inside the material. like this:
    [​IMG]

    Best Regards,
    Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
     
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    I see they can use a white plastic to engrave in then using charcoal to fill in the scratches.
    The plastic is put into a box with a light inside and it comes out nice looking
    [​IMG]
     
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    WOW Shaun, amazing!! What will you think of next!!!


    Fozzy, that is too cool!!! Man R2 is such a cool Droid, Nice job on that one!!




    John
     
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    Shaun,

    Man I fell off my chair, WOW.....That is simply awesome!!!!

    YOU MUST WRITE UP THE PRESSURE ROLLER MOD for RUBBER..

    Simply Fantastic..... :mrgreen:

    -Peter
     
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    Hey Peter,
    I already did. It's in my aluminum tube mod thread here: http://www.phlatforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=1268
     
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    :lol: that's not one of mine John.... Just an example of what happens when you edge light engraved plexi. But the technique is great for making Bar Signs or Arcade machine Signs or other stuff for the den. Or for in a store.

    Best Regards,
    Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
     
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    I have an added uptate to how these rollers are working with foam.
    At first they seemed ok but the more I used them I noticed a lot of skewing. I really like these rollers so I just use fences for the foam to travel.
    With the fences up everything works perfect.
     
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    Shaun I was afraid of that, but even more than that, when I wrapped the tool box liner on the one I did on the show. I noticed the same movement would occur when I was first prototyping the Phlatprinters using rubber roller test. That's when I stopped with that and have gone back to the drawing board. If there is a small amount of movement in the rubbers surface in comparison to its base it will act as if it was a lost step over several movements because the roller is always a minute amount ahead of the surface of the rubber. Its kind of like a dragsters tires at the starting line. It takes a little while for the tire to catch up to the torque of the rim. You really do not see it much with the rubber roller but it is.
    I have been looking more into this for the BB build and as I test I will let you know what I find out.
    Mark
     
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    Well to add to this, I must say my foam zero's back to where it is suppose to. When I had the tread grip on the rollers the fanfold was always off when it returned too zero. Plywood has no problems either.
     

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