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Six Cylinder Radial Engine

Discussion in 'Phlatformer Plugs/Molds' started by Evil-Tunes, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. Evil-Tunes

    Evil-Tunes Moderator Staff Member

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    I wanted to start this Plug section with a Six Cylinder Radial Engine that I had in my mind [​IMG]
    Because my PP is piled up with stuff "water in the Basement" I showed it to mark and he cut it out of depron.

    Then Mark asked if he could do a pull on it and here is how it came out.

    WOW I never thought it would look that good pulling over depron.

    I did some revision on the main file and wanted to share

    Cheers
    E-T Attached files Six Cylinder Radial Engine 3.cnc (59.8 KB)Â [​IMG] Six Cylinder Radial Engine 3.skp (1.7 MB)Â [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  2. kram242

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    Nice job ET thank you for sharing this! :)
     
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    Gasp! Where's the pull? :) Cool model!
     
  4. Gefahren

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    Just thought I might point out that most radial engines have an odd number of cylinders. ;) I have seen some two stroke ones with even numbers but all the 4 strokes I've seen are odd. Has to do with the firing order. Still I want to see what the pull looked like. :!:
     
  5. Evil-Tunes

    Evil-Tunes Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry about that [​IMG] I re did the pictures. The new plug has the heat fins across the front also.

    That is something I did not Know :? Well I'll know that for the next one.


    I'm Working on a 3-D one piece plug now out of 2" Pink foam.....


    Cheers
    E-T
     
  6. tvcasualty

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    That is cool man! Now you need a 1910 era plane to mount it on!
     
  7. Evil-Tunes

    Evil-Tunes Moderator Staff Member

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    Well I cut it out and I messed up on one of the slices so I redid the su and Gcode I also took out some tabs. :?



    [​IMG]


    Cheers
    E-T Attached files [​IMG]
     
  8. Chuck

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    Really cool! I have to admit I also noticed the even number of cylinders. Four stroke radials were usually five or seven cylinder. I used to know why the need for odd number of cylinders, but I have forgotten that. I also can't remember where I live. I have a Phlatformer coming. It will be interesting to see what it does. Good job you guys on this radial engine project. I would like to see some sort of pointed and fitted piece for the nose of the various pusher jets like the FunJet, F22, etc. That would tidy up and toughen up the nose on the planes.

    Chuck
    ...somewhere in Indiana...
     
  9. 3DMON

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    Cool project. Thanks!
     
  10. kram242

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    Hey ET glad to see you are up and running! Looks great
    Mark
     
  11. Gefahren

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    The odd number of cylinders has to do with the firing order of a 4 stroke. It fires every other cylinder as the crank rotates around, if you count that around you can see that in two revolutions you have every cylinder fire, if you've got an even number of cylinders then it doesn't work out.
     
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    I've been thinking about it too, Gefahren, and I think there must be something particularly related to radial engines that forces the odd-number issue - but I haven't got a clue what it might be.
    After all, there are 4, 6, 8 and 12-cylinder automobile engines that work smoothly enough for ground travel. 4-cylinder engines fire in the typical order of 1-3-4-2 and I think many 6-cylinder cars fire 1-2-4-6-3-5.
     
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    Not to take this too far off topic, but...

    It is something related to a radial engine. Each bank of cylinders has one crank "lobe" that they are all connected to, so as the crank spins each cylinder goes to Top dead center one after the other in order around the engine. So one will start the combustion cycle the next will start the intake cycle then the next is combustion and so on around the engine untill you come back to the first cylinder again and its doing and intake cycle now. With an even number of cyclinders there would be a "gap" in the firing order that would really make the engines shake more than they already do. So the firing order for a 9 cylinder would be 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8.

    Also note that they always had one cylinder pointing straight up to help minimize the oil collection in the lower cylinders when the engine was not running.


    Now, any ideas how to get the fins on the front of the plug for the engine? and just how thin can they reasonable be made?
     
  14. Evil-Tunes

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    The New Files have the fins in the front. I have not cut it out yet. If someone cuts it out please post a pic.

    Cheers

    E-T
     
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    Ahh yes! All cylinders are driven off the same lobe on the crankshaft, so it's not possible to mix up the firing order! Now, why didn't I think of that? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  16. Evil-Tunes

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    Cut out the Radial engine again. :D

    Well I shouldn't have used it for My First Pull. :? :shock:
    Never having done this before I got the Plastic way to Hot [​IMG]

    I killed the Plug.......No Problem I have a MKII :lol: but It will have to wait till tomarow. :(


    I did a few more pulls and this was the coolest one so far for me. :mrgreen:

    I killed it trying to get the truck out.


    I think I need better heat distrobution(sp?)
    will have to go out and try that skillet from wallmart.


    Cheers
    E-T Attached files [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  17. TigerPilot

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    I looked into making it a 7 cylinder motor, E=T, and it took me all of 10min to do the conversion. Why don't you do it too before you cut it again?
     
  18. kram242

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    That new version looks awesome ET nice job!
     
  19. Evil-Tunes

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    KK I get the hint.....I will abandon the six Cylinder for now.... :roll: :roll: :roll: ...now I'm working on a Nine Cyl

    Yoram,
    can you post the 7 Cyl one?


    Cheers
    E-T
     
  20. TigerPilot

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    Sure, no problem. While at it, I made a 9 cyl. version too. Both are in the same file. Make changes as you see fit!!! Attached files Multi Cylinder Radial Engine 3.skp (1.5 MB)Â
     

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